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ragz442
04-17-2007, 11:03 PM
Ok, here's a new one on me. Looks like possibly Buick pace car decals w/the Olds added? What do you guys say? Definatly different.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oldsmobile-Cutlass-HURSTOLDS-HURSTOLDS-W30-INDY-500-PACE-CAR-442_W0QQitemZ120110409743QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6405QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Item relisted .... Admin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120110489524
PSU442
04-17-2007, 11:13 PM
woah! there's our hood though... stripes and all. overall, its kinda cool. if somebody did this themselves, they were thorough. I mean, look at the interior!
ragz442
04-17-2007, 11:18 PM
After looking over the pics, I'd have to say it's a modified Salon. Has all the neat "period correct" stuff for sure.

Salons had these style seats [often two tone] and t-tops also.
http://i3.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/99/aa/e84f_1_b.JPG
442MUCH
04-17-2007, 11:22 PM
woah! there's our hood though... stripes and all. overall, its kinda cool. if somebody did this themselves, they were thorough. I mean, look at the interior!

The 1977 Pace Car was a Delta 88 not a Cutlass. It wasn't a H/O. This car is home made.

The real Pace Car

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/vttedrm/untitled.jpg
ragz442
04-17-2007, 11:27 PM
Yea that's right, the Buick century free spirit pace car was '76. Kinda resembles one with all the graphics.

http://i20.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/99/aa/c540_1_b.JPG
442MUCH
04-17-2007, 11:40 PM
Sounds like he's trying to pass this thing off as "original" . All our cars are one of one when we do stuff to them. He's done a nice job, but should just state that it's a tribute car and stop implying that it's a rare one of one.rolleyes:
ragz442
04-17-2007, 11:48 PM
I agree. I'm in the process of cloning a prototype, at least there was 1 documented prototype made to clone it against. It is neat and seems very well done, but someone may be getting taken to the cleaners.
[if it sells for stupid money, say over 20k]
keith455
04-17-2007, 11:57 PM
I say fake also.. Way to many Hurst and H/O emblems and decals all over. Nicely done but not a Prototype. IMO
keith455
04-17-2007, 11:58 PM
The 1977 Pace Car was a Delta 88 not a Cutlass. It wasn't a H/O. This car is home made.

The real Pace Car

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/vttedrm/untitled.jpg

Where's this car now?
442MUCH
04-18-2007, 12:23 AM
Where's this car now?

I saw a few original Pace Cars in Lansing for the 100th Anniversary. This one is owned by General Motors last time I saw it. Perhaps the Olds History Centre owns it now.
keith455
04-18-2007, 12:36 AM
What is this thing. Light Tend ??
http://i16.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/99/ab/0d39_1_b.JPG (http://i16.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/99/ab/0d39_1_b.JPG)
damaged442
04-18-2007, 07:04 AM
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/oldsmobile/delta_royale/360622.html
There were 2401 Delta pace car replicas built for the public in 77. It's obvious the guy got the decals from one. Now why would this Cutlass have a 455 when the actual 77 H/O prototype that was/is owned by Jeff Fieldsend had the 403? If you actually do have such a rare beast, do you really put it on ebay? Don't get me wrong, so far the price is right, but to try and pass it off as something it's not...All I can think of is the quote from Tommy Boy. "Hey, I can take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I got the spare time." With that being said, I do like the color combo and the spoiler though.
PSU442
04-18-2007, 08:05 AM
definitely well done.... i would, in no way whatsoever, frown at somebody putting a car like this together BUT to try passing it off as legit. Come on....

I'm also jealous of the rear wing.
keith455
04-18-2007, 01:30 PM
Weird.. he relisted it.
"The seller ended this listing early because the item was lost or broken."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120110489524
PSU442
04-18-2007, 01:56 PM
that is strange....
RocketMan
04-18-2007, 02:00 PM
The actual '77 pace car is at the Speedway. They have it as part of their collection. I've seen it several times (if I knew how to post pix I would). If you ever see pix of the race, AJ Foyt won his 4th 500 and did a victory lap with the track owner. When he sat on the modified roof he crushed it and it was later repaired.
keith455
04-18-2007, 02:44 PM
This one???
keith455
04-18-2007, 02:54 PM
Just found a cool pic of the pace car.. maybe we should start a new thread
http://www.oldsclubofflorida.com/Images/Members/Mick-Sweeney_1977Delta88Pace.jpg
RocketMan
04-18-2007, 05:32 PM
Yep thats the one. The actual Pace Car stands out due to the modified sideveiw mirrors.
ragz442
04-18-2007, 07:34 PM
I see now it's approaching stupid money IMO :rolleyes: [16k]. You can still get a lot of car for that kind of coin. It is neat but a little "over the top" for my taste. I just got another one of those spoilers off ebay for $200, It's even painted the same color as our Supreme :cool: . They seem to be hard to come by, but they do pop up on there from time to time.

p.s. Keith I believe that's a timer for the headlights but not 100% sure on that.
keith455
04-18-2007, 09:45 PM
LOL.. anyone see the new info he put.
Vehicle Description
1977 HURST/OLDS INDY 500 PACE CAR PROTOTYPE! THE ONLY ONE EVER MADE!!!!!! WHAT A RARE FIND!!!!!!!!! 0ver $38,000 spent on frame off restoration 14 years ago!! i just spent $6,800 on the rebuild of the 455!! it has 510 HP 535 torqe car has very rare options. the pics speak for themselves NO E-MAILS!!!!!!!! WILL NOT RETURN!! YOU CAN REACH ME AT (502)418-5097

On Apr-18-07 at 17:49:16 PDT, seller added the following information:FOR THOSE WHO ARE SMART ENOUGH TO READ IT DOES NOT SAY ANYWHERE THAT THIS IS A FACTORY PROTOTYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND AS IT SAID IN THE AD TO CALL NO E-MAILS!!!! ALL THOSE WHO BID ALREADY HAVE CALLED ME AND KNOW THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS MY PROTOTYPE!! AND IT IS THE ONLY ONE MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ragz442
04-18-2007, 09:49 PM
HA, what do the kids say nowadays...........owned!
PSU442
04-18-2007, 10:18 PM
pro·to·type (prō'tə-tīp')
n.
1. An original type, form, or instance serving as a basis or standard for later stages.
2. An original, full-scale, and usually working model of a new product or new version of an existing product.
ragz442
04-18-2007, 10:48 PM
Key words in his first description that got everybody worked up:

1977 HURST/OLDS INDY 500 PACE CAR PROTOTYPE! THE ONLY ONE EVER MADE!!!!!! WHAT A RARE FIND!!!!!!!!!
I guess you gotta read into it :rolleyes: .

They're beating him up over on ROP also :D :
http://72.22.90.30/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34283

WOW, 18k and climbing............I guess there's hope for us forgotten year owners afterall..lol
ragz442
04-21-2007, 10:28 AM
19.5k and reserve not met :confused:....guess I'm going to have to invest in some emblems and decals :D .
PSU442
04-21-2007, 09:36 PM
that's insane. maybe i'll slap a flaming chicken on my hood and all it a day...
ragz442
04-21-2007, 10:27 PM
21k and reserve still not met :eek: , that's more than twice as much as I have invested in all 3 of my cars. The're not museum pieces but they are nice drivers...........well 2 of them are right now anyway :( .
PSU442
05-15-2007, 09:19 PM
it's back!!!! buy it now for $24,900.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oldsmobile-Cutlass-HURST-OLDS-HURST-OLDS-W30-INDY-500-PACE-CAR-442-BUICK-GS-1976-olds_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6405QQihZ002QQitem Z120119703804QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
ragz442
05-15-2007, 10:30 PM
it's back!!!! buy it now for $24,900.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oldsmobile-Cutlass-HURST-OLDS-HURST-OLDS-W30-INDY-500-PACE-CAR-442-BUICK-GS-1976-olds_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6405QQihZ002QQitem Z120119703804QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

I noticed that yesterday, but the reserve was 28.9K? It bid to close to his new reserve on the last auction, he should have taken the money and ran.