73 H/O Build Sheet

[karfever]

Question, Does a build sheet for a 73 H/O ALWAYS have the hurst option code appearing? I found the build sheet for my 73 H/O but it does not have a code for the Hurst Olds option. I though I had seen another build sheet which did list the W45 code.:confused:

[nads75]

Not sure about that one- where did you find the build sheet?

[karfever]

I found the build sheet between the carpet underlayment (tar paper) and sheet metal behind the passenger seat in the rear footwell.

[Hurstolds1973]

When I get home Ill post a picture of one of my 73 H/O build sheets... Joe

[Hurstolds1973]

When I get home Ill post a picture of one of my 73 H/O build sheets... Joe

Let me know if this helps! Joe

[nads75]

Thanks for the info Karfever- my carpet has been replaced, so I hope I can still find it.

Joe- that's an awesome piece to have- I'm gonna go look now.

Dean

[damaged442]

Let me know if this helps! Joe

Damn, I wish my build sheet was in that good condition. Mine's all black and toasty.

[Hurstolds1973]

That one is from a Texas 73 H/O car. I bought the car. It was stolen during a restoration. I have most of the parts but not the car. Go figure.... Joe

[karfever]

Mine looks alot like yours photo attached.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6199/buildsheetut7.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=buildsheetut7.jpg)

[Hurstolds1973]

Very much the same as far as I can see. Only differenceis the trim code... 940 is mine 947 is yours???? Joe

[stews73ho]

My build sheet has no Hurst code that I can see either. Part of the sheet is not legible though.

[stews73ho]

Karfever,
I believe your build code is 05A first week of May. The date on you buildsheet is 04/30 (04E)? Can anyone explain this? It is only one day away from May. 4/30/ was a Monday in 1973. By the way the 1973 calander is exactly the same as 2007. The days and dates that is.
Eric

[58thndy]

Not sure on 73, but my 74, even though it is a 350 car, has W30 code on the broadcast card. Makes me think that maybe all the 1974 cars had that code on the card. Unfortunately, card is in car, car is 25 miles away, and I don't have a scanner.

Any other 1974 owners seen this?

[76HOProposal]

Karfever,
I believe your build code is 05A first week of May. The date on you buildsheet is 04/30 (04E)? Can anyone explain this?
Eric

Eric,

You have to think how a car is assembled back then. The broadcast sheet was the script that was to be followed in the building of that shell by the Fisher line worker. It was generated from an order put in the system and sequenced to run that day of production. The body tag was then punched from the broadcast sheet near the end of Fisher's assembly.

The only thing I can think is there was a change on the line for some reason and things got out of sync. a bit. The assembly of cars back then was a living breathing thing and subject to it's occasional share of problems. Heck, it still is today. But the widespread use of computers currently has made it more predictable and controllable.

Maybe that car fell behind because of a problem in assembly???? All speculation on my part. I was not there. I think they were building about (800) a day in Lansing. Which was normal for most assembly plants of that time.

It would be interesting to see cars build sheets before and after it's build. To see what was really at play.
The 947 is interesting. I have to look at some information I have to see if it wasn't a typo. My 73 had a 940 trim code also.
I know of a 1968 Hurst Olds that was built in a plant that didn't exist anywhere according to it's body tag.
It happens.

[76HOProposal]

Not sure on 73, but my 74, even though it is a 350 car, has W30 code on the broadcast card.

Any other 1974 owners seen this?

I'm looking at some information I have on 1974.

The W-30 Hurst Olds Appearance and Performance Package. Had the 455 (L76) and (15) other options standard in the option.

The Y-77 Hurst Olds Appearance Package got the standard 350 and only a select (9) options of the W-30's standard options.

Interesting that your broadcast has W30 when it is a Y-77. Could be the way it was done on the sheets. You learn something new everyday.

[stews73ho]

Thanks everyone. This makes me think of another question. In the registry I have a car built days after my car with a higher sequence number VIN. Yet the cowl tag sequence number is a lower number than mine. What may of happened here?

[76HOProposal]

Thanks everyone. This makes me think of another question. In the registry I have a car built days after my car with a higher sequence number VIN. Yet the cowl tag sequence number is a lower number than mine. What may of happened here?


At Fisher -

A Bare Body Shell is assembled. The shell gets a VIN number placed in it after that assembly. Then the broadcast sheet gets printed from the order being placed in the system. The broadcast sheet is followed by the Fisher line worker in assembly of that car body's options and trim. If that body got specially punched or drilled to fit an option, it should be on that sheet.

The body tag is fixed to the shell using the broadcast sheet as the guide for the information that is placed on to it. (This is what I was told. And makes logical sense in this particular case of non sequential VIN numbers.)

Final Assembly Line-

Build sheet is printed and placed on or near completed body shell. The frame starts assembly on another point on the line with another copy of the build sheet. This is so the GM line worker can know how to do their particular job to that car. Adding or leaving off options as it moves down the line. Four door, two door, and wagon. All built on the same final assembly line.

To give an answer to your question of VIN out of sync.

If during the assembly of the body, if a problem came up that couldn't be solved at the moving speed of the Fisher line. That VIN numbered shell was sidelined and fixed so it could rejoin the line as quickly as possible. (This would be a big problem that Paint and Repair could not solve later. Something that would have appeared early on in assembly of the body. And require a major disassembly of the body to resolve the problem later.) It is conceivable some are way out of sequence depending on the problem that happened.

Keep in mind that not all GM assembly plants functioned this way from mark to mark and year to year. Sometimes Fisher assembly was inside the same building as the final assembly line and sometimes it was in another city. I have gone through MANY different assembly plants. It is impossible to not learn something new in each one. And with each repeat visit. I would say that few assembly lines were exactly the same. And almost all were different in some way in the sequencing of assembly events.



Hope this helps.