Cyrix2k
04-03-2011, 10:27 AM
I joined this site to find out more about my dad's car. He has a 1977 442 that is an original 403 car. It has the turbo 350 auto trans (and he claims there was no option for a manual behind the 403), red interior, and also came with the factory a/c delete. He is the original owner and it has 8x,xxx miles on it. The car is mostly factory although it does have a different intake, carb, and exhaust on it. I believe my dad kept all the original parts except for the carb which was lost due to a shop misplacing it. The paint was also refreshed in the 80s with factory colors. Does anyone have any idea how much a car like this trades hands for (mostly for insurance purposes)?
He also has a 1969 442 post coupe. This was also quite a rare car as it was a factory three speed and one of the most stripped down 442s that could have been ordered from the factory. By the time we got it, a 455 and 4 speed had been swapped in. It has become a restomod project and now has hotchkiss rear suspension and a 4.10 moser full spool rear end.
More about me. I like older american cars, but anything 80s and up is pretty much lost. My first car was an '89 Caprice Brougham with a 305 more suitable for a boat anchor than powering a car. After that, I ended up with a '96 BMW 318i convertible that my parents later bought from me. It is probably the slowest car built my BMW in the last two decades (~140 hp I4 auto), but it's actually a fun car and felt faster than the caprice. It was also a LOT more reliable. My next car and current daily driver is a 1997 BMW 540i 6 speed. This car is somewhat rare with the manual transmission and is powered by a 4.4L DOHC V8. IMO, it's the closest thing to the original american muscle formula that was produced in the 90s. It started out life as a luxury sedan but had a fairly powerful motor dropped in it with a proper transmission and sporty suspension. Even though the engine seems small by american standards, it still put down 260 whp on the dyno bone stock. That's 300 hp at the crank assuming a conservative 15% drive loss. Performance is supposed to be something like 14 flat in the 1/4 mile and 0-60 in 5.5 seconds. I haven't run the car on the drag strip to find out but the performance figures are somewhat misleading because the independent rear suspension doesn't hook up off the line like a live axle. Finally, I bought a $400 1985 BMW 325 eta project car. This one is a 5 speed and also equipped with 2.79 limited slip. Originally powered by a 2.7L I6 that achieved awesome fuel mileage but not much power, it now has a later model 2.5L I6 good for about 190 hp. Considering the car is stripped and doesn't weight much more than 2000 lbs, it should be a fun ride. The original motor was about 120 hp until I turboed it, but I never made it to the dyno to get real power figures in its boosted configuration. At the end, I was pushing about 10 psi and the clutch was slipping. Subjectively, it felt a good deal faster than the 540. Considering the weight of the car and low red line (4700 stock, 5500 under boost), it was probably making a lot more torque than horsepower so it's faster than you might think.
Pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/Cyrix_2k/442s.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/Cyrix_2k/135i/442.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/Cyrix_2k/135i/442_2.jpg
Sorry, I don't have many pictures of the '77. It doesn't get out much.
He also has a 1969 442 post coupe. This was also quite a rare car as it was a factory three speed and one of the most stripped down 442s that could have been ordered from the factory. By the time we got it, a 455 and 4 speed had been swapped in. It has become a restomod project and now has hotchkiss rear suspension and a 4.10 moser full spool rear end.
More about me. I like older american cars, but anything 80s and up is pretty much lost. My first car was an '89 Caprice Brougham with a 305 more suitable for a boat anchor than powering a car. After that, I ended up with a '96 BMW 318i convertible that my parents later bought from me. It is probably the slowest car built my BMW in the last two decades (~140 hp I4 auto), but it's actually a fun car and felt faster than the caprice. It was also a LOT more reliable. My next car and current daily driver is a 1997 BMW 540i 6 speed. This car is somewhat rare with the manual transmission and is powered by a 4.4L DOHC V8. IMO, it's the closest thing to the original american muscle formula that was produced in the 90s. It started out life as a luxury sedan but had a fairly powerful motor dropped in it with a proper transmission and sporty suspension. Even though the engine seems small by american standards, it still put down 260 whp on the dyno bone stock. That's 300 hp at the crank assuming a conservative 15% drive loss. Performance is supposed to be something like 14 flat in the 1/4 mile and 0-60 in 5.5 seconds. I haven't run the car on the drag strip to find out but the performance figures are somewhat misleading because the independent rear suspension doesn't hook up off the line like a live axle. Finally, I bought a $400 1985 BMW 325 eta project car. This one is a 5 speed and also equipped with 2.79 limited slip. Originally powered by a 2.7L I6 that achieved awesome fuel mileage but not much power, it now has a later model 2.5L I6 good for about 190 hp. Considering the car is stripped and doesn't weight much more than 2000 lbs, it should be a fun ride. The original motor was about 120 hp until I turboed it, but I never made it to the dyno to get real power figures in its boosted configuration. At the end, I was pushing about 10 psi and the clutch was slipping. Subjectively, it felt a good deal faster than the 540. Considering the weight of the car and low red line (4700 stock, 5500 under boost), it was probably making a lot more torque than horsepower so it's faster than you might think.
Pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/Cyrix_2k/442s.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/Cyrix_2k/135i/442.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/Cyrix_2k/135i/442_2.jpg
Sorry, I don't have many pictures of the '77. It doesn't get out much.