UH OH Junk car title! Now NO title????

[tomcat74cutlass]

I just called the Nevada DMV to find out why my car title is taking so long to get and I was told that thew car was JUNKED and that the yard had a Junk car title on it and that the car could NEVER be titled in ANY state again and that it could only be sold as parts??

The restoration shop I got it from said he is working on getting me a clear title for the car I paid 2500 for it and now I have almost $5000 into it?

It has been almost 5 months now.

Anybody want to buy this junk car?? I only want $5000 for it and by the way you can't drive it legally!!!!!!!!!

http://www.73-77olds.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=105&pictureid=796

[Hurstolds1973]

Sorry to hear that !!!!
Time to be creative at the DMV!!!!

[73431Cutlass]

You can get a junk car re-titled in some states. My buddy did just that in Va. yrs a go on a Chevelle and another buddy just bought a totaled car off an insurance website in Ma. and had it titled in Va. just 2 months ago. What state are you in? This is from the Va. State Police about titling a junk or salvage vechicle....
Repaired/Rebuilt Vehicle Examinations
Before DMV issues a vehicle title for a repaired or rebuilt salvage vehicle, a DMV special agent must conduct an anti-theft examination. In order for an examination to be scheduled, the requestor must contact the appropriate DMV Law Enforcement Services District Office to schedule an examination. Such inspections can only be done if the repairs were performed in Virginia. When the examination is completed, the requestor must submit the following to DMV:

Salvage Certificate
Original LES 022A Form (Request for Examination of Repaired or Rebuilt Salvage Vehicle)
Original LES 022B Form (Report of Examination of Repaired or Rebuilt Salvage Vehicle) indicating approved examination and whether or not branding is required. This form is completed by the DMV special agent who conducts the exam.
$125.00 Examination Fee
$10.00 Substitute title fee

The percentage of damage listed on the original salvage record will determine if there is to be a brand noted on the new title.

If the vehicle record indicated the damage as 75 percent or less, DMV will issue a certificate of title with the brand "REPAIRED" printed on it. This brand is permanent and will be carried forward for each title issued for the life of the vehicle. There is no requirement for additional notification to a new purchaser.

If the vehicle record indicated the damage to be between 76 percent and 90 percent, DMV will issue a certificate of title with the brand "REBUILT" printed on it. This brand is permanent and will be carried forward for each title issued for the life of the vehicle. Note: Each new purchaser must receive the title and a notification form (VSA59) "REBUILT SALVAGE VEHICLE DISCLOSURE STATEMENT."

They also want reciepts from you of what was repaired to show it is road worthy and able to pass inspection. Now there is the insurance topic next....
Can a Car with a Salvage Title Receive Full Coverage?
I have a salvage title for my car and need to know if I can insure it with full coverage.
A salvage title shows that a vehicle was totaled in the past. Typically, a “totaled” vehicle is one that sustained damages in excess of 75 percent of the car’s pre-accident value. A car insurance company usually makes this determination and then sells the totaled vehicle at an auction to recoup some of its losses. If an individual or a dealership purchases the vehicle, significant restorations will be necessary to make the car roadworthy again. Once the vehicle is ready for resale, it must carry the designation of salvage-titled vehicle to give buyers a heads up about its history. Every state has a different way of categorizing “title brands.” Aside from salvage title, you may see names like reconstructed, restored, rebuilt, junk, reconditioned, repaired, unsafe, and non-repairable.

Insuring Salvage-Titled Vehicles
In addition to the obvious safety concerns, owners of salvage-titled cars also have to worry about insurance issues. Because the average salvage title vehicle is worth about 40 percent less than the same vehicle with a clean title, insurers offer significantly reduced benefits for these vehicles. If your insurer will provide full coverage for a salvage-titled vehicle, the payout you will receive if you file a claim will be minimal. This applies to physical damage coverage claims, or claims against your collision or comprehensive coverage. Some insurers may up your rates if you insure a salvage-titled vehicle because of the safety risks of these vehicles.

Physical Damage Coverage
Some owners may not be able to get any physical damage coverage for a salvage-titled vehicle. Whether physical damage coverage is available will depend on the insurance company and state laws. Most car insurance companies will provide liability, medical payments, and uninsured/underinsured motorist coverage for vehicles with salvage titles, but collision and comprehensive coverage are much more difficult to get. Certain states do not allow insurers to provide full coverage on salvage-titled cars. If your state and your insurer allow physical damage coverage for your salvage-titled vehicle, you should consider if the premiums for the coverage are worth it. A salvage title reduces the actual cash value of the vehicle substantially, so you wouldn’t get much benefit from purchasing collision and comprehensive.

Prerequisites
Before an insurer will offer coverage on a salvage-titled vehicle, it will likely have to pass an inspection first. State law usually requires salvage-titled vehicles to be inspected by the state police or the DMV. Your insurer will probably want a copy of the inspection certificate in that case. In states where an inspection is not mandated by law, your insurer might ask you to obtain a “garage report” on the vehicle, which is a certificate that indicates that vehicle is safe and roadworthy.


Getting a title for a car left on a property over an extended time. Tow yards use this to sell cars to junk dealers or public people.

wrecked, junk car dorr open image by Allen Penton from Fotolia.com
Junk CarThe Virginia Board of Towing and Recovery Operators regulates vehicle towing in the Commonwealth of Virginia. The agency derives its authority from 24 Virginia Code Chapter 27, Subchapter 30, Sections 10 through 180. These regulations include the process tow companies must follow when they tow a junk car.
Definition
An abandoned motor vehicle is a car left unattended on public property for longer than two days or left on private property for more than two days without the consent of the owner. Vehicles left unattended on the highway shoulder are also considered abandoned vehicles. If a vehicle remains parked in a garage for ten days longer than the expiration of its contractual period, then its considered abandoned. Finally, if a vehicle remains unclaimed in a storage unit, it will be considered an abandoned vehicle.
Search
Virginia law prohibits abandoning a motor vehicle and can carry a civil fine of up to $500. To have an abandoned junk car towed, eligible individuals, local government or businesses in possession of the abandoned property must request a title search with the vehicle identification number and pay a $25.00 fee to the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV).

If the record search reveals that the junk car has a Virginia title, then the DMV will send a certified letter to the vehicle owner. If the owner does not respond, then the person in possession of the abandoned junk car may post an intent to auction the vehicle with the DMV. After a 21 day waiting period, the possessor may then take the vehicle's title, sell it, transfer it, or have it towed for scrap metal.
Title
To take title, the person in possession of the abandoned junk vehicle must fill out the appropriate DMV application, fill out the Vehicle Removal Certificate, pay the appropriate DMV fees and satisfy the vehicle registration requirements. If the title search revealed that the car had title in another state, the possessor must contact the DMV of that state to figure out who owns the vehicle. Once the owner is determined, the possessor must send a certified, return receipt letter, which requests that the owner remove the vehicle within 15 days. If the owner does not comply, then the possessor may initiate the auction and title transfer process and have the junk car towed.
Disclaimer
This article is for educational purposes only, to give an overview of laws on towing junk cars in Virginia, which are subject to change. It is not intended to give legal advice. To determine how Virginia law applies to your situation, consult a qualified attorney licensed to practice law in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

It canbe done and fairly simple just need to get the police involved. WHen my buddy had his Chevelle done he had put a front clip on, motor and trans, and rebuilt the brake system and front end. His car was not wrecked just towed away from a property from sitting like 20 yrs. His car passed 100%. My buddy who rebuilt the truck from Ma. put on a front clip and had to have the frame tweaked so the front clip fit normal. He did nothing else to it and it passed 100% also.
Hope this helps you out.
Steve

[Joe Pawlowski]

That sucks...I had the same problem about 15 years ago with a 76 442 that i got from Arizona.I tried to get a title for a few years and ended up circle tracking the car.What a waste...The Illinois dmv told me that I could NEVER register the car even though I had a bill of sale.What I would do if I was you is find a donor car and use it for the vin plate and title.You have a nice car and it is a shame that the dmv is not helping you.Our tax dollars at work...Good luck/Joe

[73431Cutlass]

I saw your tags and found this...
Drivers & Vehicles > Vehicles >

Flood damaged vehicles and other title brands
Vehicle owner/seller responsibilities | Advice to vehicle buyer | Brand information

A title "brand" provides important information about the condition of a vehicle. It is a permanent record that prints on each Wisconsin title issued for an individual vehicle.

Responsibilities of a vehicle owner/seller. The owner of a vehicle must disclose certain brand information when selling a vehicle, or when applying for a title if the current Wisconsin title for that vehicle does not already have the brand. The owner marks any appropriate brand on the assignment of title or on form MV1 (684 KB) Wisconsin Title and License Plate Application. Failure to disclose a title brand may result in a fine up to $5,000 s. 342.15(5m)(b).

Advice to a vehicle buyer. When you are buying a vehicle, check the front of the title for any brands and ask the seller if he/she should check any of the brands on the assignment of title at the time of transfer. Brand information is printed under "Additional Vehicle Detail" on the bottom half of Wisconsin titles issued after December 2004. In addition to Wisconsin title brand information, you will find any available brand information for a vehicle previously titled in another jurisdiction.

State law requires the vehicle owner to disclose the following title brand information if it is not already on the current Wisconsin title:

Claim paid - A vehicle less than seven years old damaged by collision or other occurrence to the extent that the estimated or actual cost, whichever is greater, of repairing the vehicle is more than 30% of its fair market value and was transferred to an insurer upon payment of an insurance claim. This brand does not apply to a salvage vehicle that, by definition, has damage more than of 70% of its fair market value, s. 342.10(3)(g) .

Flood damaged - A vehicle that is not considered junk and damaged by water to the extent that the estimated or actual repair costs, whichever is greater, is more than 70% of the fair market value. A vehicle that has been submerged in water will receive a flood damaged brand. If the vehicle is less than seven years old it will also receive a Wisconsin salvage vehicle brand s. 340.01(18p) .

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Hail damaged - A vehicle less than seven years old damaged solely by hail to the extent that the estimated or actual cost, whichever is greater, to repair the vehicle is more than 70% of its fair market value. Also, the vehicle was or may be repaired without replacing any non-mechanical sheet metal or plastic parts of the exterior of a motor vehicle, including inner and outer panels. If repairs include any of these replacement parts, the vehicle must receive a salvage vehicle brand s. 340.01(20m) .

Non-USA standard - A vehicle not manufactured in compliance with all federal emission and safety standards applicable at the time of manufacture. The vehicle is not required to be brought into compliance with these standards s. 342.10(3)(c) .

Prior non-USA - A vehicle not manufactured in compliance with all federal emission and safety standards applicable at the time of manufacture and was later modified to meet such standards s. 342.10(3)(c)

Prior police vehicle - A vehicle that will be or was previously used as a police vehicle by a law enforcement agency s. 342.10(3)(b) .

Prior taxi - A vehicle that will be or was previously used as a taxicab or for public transportation s. 342.10(3)(a) .

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Manufacturer buyback (Lemon Law) - A vehicle repurchased by the manufacturer (or by an authorized distributor or dealer with compensation from the manufacturer) because of a nonconformity that was not corrected after a reasonable attempt to repair it. "Nonconformity" means a defect that substantially impairs a vehicle's use, value or safety. "Reasonable attempt to repair" means four unsuccessful attempts to repair the same problem within twelve months, or thirty days out of service for any number of defects within twelve months. s. 340.01(28e)

Rebuilt salvage - A vehicle last titled in Wisconsin as a salvage vehicle after successfully passing a Wisconsin salvage inspection by a certified state salvage inspector s. 342.07 ; Wisconsin Administrative Code Trans 149.

Salvage vehicle - A vehicle less than seven years old that is not considered junk and damaged by collision or other occurrence (other than from hail damage) to the extent that the cost of repairing the vehicle is more than 70% of the fair market value. Or, a vehicle of any model year last titled in another jurisdiction with a salvage brand.

A salvage vehicle must successfully pass a Wisconsin salvage inspection by a certified state salvage title inspector before it may receive registration license plates. Inspections ensure the vehicle and its individual parts are not stolen, have proper equipment and are in safe operating condition. (See Wisconsin Administrative Code Trans 149). Operation of a salvage vehicle is illegal except to or from an inspection site. After successfully passing the inspection, the title brand will change to rebuilt salvage. Refer to Salvage Vehicle Inspecting Agency List for a vehicle inspector in your area s. 340.01(55g) ; s. 342.065 ; Wisconsin Administrative Code Trans 149.

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The Department of Transportation (WisDOT) will add the following title brands under specific circumstances:

Not for highway use - A vehicle that does not qualify for use on public roads. This brand is added only if a previous title was issued in error. The vehicle is not eligible to receive registration license plates s. 342.10(1)(e) .

Reconstructed - A motor vehicle substantially altered or modified from the original manufacturer's specifications to the extent that it no longer resembles the original manufactured vehicle. A reconstructed vehicle must be inspected prior to receiving registration license plates for the first time in Wisconsin s. 341.268(1)(d) ; Wisconsin Administrative Code Trans 305.

Replica - A motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, that is a reproduction of a vehicle originally made by another manufacturer and consists of a reproduction body that is combined with a new, used, or replica frame and drivetrain s. 341.268(1)(e) .

Special designed - A homemade, reconstructed or manufactured vehicle with a maximum speed of 35 miles per hour and authorized by the department to operate on public roads. All special design vehicles must be inspected and approved before it can be titled or receive registration license plates s. 347.02(6) ; Wisconsin Administrative Code Trans 303.

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State (St) Farm not inspected - A vehicle declared by State Farm Insurance Company as a total loss but not disclosed as salvage. This was part of a settlement with State Farm Insurance and the Wisconsin Department of Justice to compensate current vehicle owners, as the owner may take a loss on the vehicle now that it has a brand. The vehicle is not considered to be a salvage vehicle in Wisconsin and has not passed an inspection by a certified state salvage inspector. s. 342.10(1)(e)

Street modified - A motor vehicle modified from original manufacturers specifications, but is not a reconstructed vehicle. s. 341.268(1)(f) ; Wisconsin Administrative Code Trans 149

Additional Information:

"Fair market value" means the value of a vehicle, taking into account the condition of the vehicle immediately before the damage occurred, and determined by reliable sources generally accepted within the automotive and insurance industries (price guidebooks, dealer quotations, computerized valuation services and other methods prescribed by the department). s. 340.01(15v)

Wisconsin does not issue titles with a brand of "junk." A junked vehicle cannot be operated or used on public roads and has no resale value except as a source for parts. It is also any vehicle an insurance company receives if the estimated cost of repairing the vehicle is more than its fair market value. A junked vehicle cannot be titled in Wisconsin. s. 340.01(25j)

If you have questions, call (608) 266-1466.
Looks like you can do it in Wisconsin I believe.....

[damaged442]

Similar to what I was worried about when looking into that 77 442 near me that I somehow need to acquire without a title...

I wish you the best of luck with it! You have put way too much time and effort into the car to be boned like this.

[442MUCH]

I might have asked this before. What's a title? Here we have a registration. When pulled over by police they ask for licence, regristration and insurance. A registration shows the owner's name, address, make and model of car, no. of doors, year, colour, VIN and when it expires. It also shows the number of the current sticker on your plate. If a car is written off, you cannot get a registration for it. You can buy a car without a registration but you can't get a plate for it. What does a title do? If I were to sell my car here,(site) you'd have to buy it without a title. Sorry to hear about your troubles tomcat.

[rrtrooper 68]

wow. that sucks big time.man i'm sorry to hear that.i had a buddy that bought a car without a title.only had a bill of sale.he was able to get a title through a nevada title company.they do it all the time i gess.i'm not sure how well that would work with a junk titlt though.if you want i can try to get a number for you.i can tell you one thing,if you could'ent get it cleared up,i think the guy you bought it from would owe you about 7500.00 bucks for sure.

[MrRocket]

I don't even know what to say, hoping for the best for you. There's got to be some way to get a good title I'd think...

[tomcat74cutlass]

Today the guy that sold me the car told me I may have to bring it back to him so he can get it safety inspected by a sheriff. Than he can get me a Wisconsin title for the car as a hobbyist title, maybe??

[HURSTOLDS_75]

Wow this is crazy! How come i just got a call today from someone asking me if i had a title and vin tags for a 1974 cutlass i was hoping it wasn't for you tom but sadly it must have been!

[hurst73]

sorry to hear. Check PM about titles in WI.

[W451973]

Sorry to hear that. I'de pressure the guy you got the car from to get the title straightened out or give up the cash you paid for the car.

[Firethorne77]

Tomcat-
I know what I would do in your position. Just get creative.
But it would involve buying another cutlass in your state, beat to hell with a clean title.
.....these states with title problems etc etc.. is a frickin' headache.. not fun at all.

[atdog]

I was afraid I wouldn't be able to get a title for my '68 (long story), so I did some research.
I think Alabama only requires a bill of sale, and some people run it through there. My mechanic gave me a guys phone number to call-but it turns out I didn't need to.
I found the name and number---Tracy Watkins 615-506-6286,615-383-4076
I don't know the particulars, but hope this helps out...

[atdog]

I thought I wasn't going to get a title for my '68 (long story). Anyway, my mechanic gave me a phone number to a guy that deals in getting titles. I think in Alabama you only have to have a Bill of Sale, and this guy deals with that.
The name I have is Tracy Watkins. Phone numbers-615-506-6286,615-383-4076
I don't know if this will help, but it's worth a shot.

[74hurstolds]

They don't do salvage vehicles, sorry for posting this!

http://www.broadwaytitle.com/

I was going to use these guys for a '75 I have, but the cutoff year is '74. I had a '68 El Camino that I was able to get a title for through Georgia back in '95.

[tomcat74cutlass]

I got a call from the seller today telling me that the title will be in my hands within the next 2-4 weeks, for sure?? He said the problem has been resolved?? It's going to be a long 4 weeks.

I was told a replacement title due to it being lost,salvage or stolen property would not be a problem but when it is a JUNK vehicle title the car should have been destroyed and will not ever be titled again.:confused: At least that was what I was told by the WI & Nevada DMV. How he is going to get around that I am not sure.

[MrRocket]

How do they determine it's "junk" since anything can be repaired? That doesn't make sense to me. I've never even heard of a junk title before this. Plenty of salvage titles but not junk titles. Hope they get you what you need and it all gets resolved.

[texxas8902]

Usually the junk yard operator sends the title and vin info to the state saying the car has been junked (destroyed). At least that is what they do here. How can you get a title with the original vin if the car (supposedly) no longer exists? We don't have junk titles in Texas or non op either.

[tomcat74cutlass]

Anybody want to make me an offer I have had the car for 6 months now and am still unable to get it registered Make me an offer I might just take it. The car has caused a LOT of problems between me and my wife.

I need to get it gone because I need a car I can drive now.:(

The only reason my hands are tied now is all I got was a bill of sale nothing was stated on the paperwork about getting me a clean title. It was a verbal promise.

[Hurstolds1973]

Geez what a mess TomCat ! Hope it all works out for you!

[tomcat74cutlass]

The only way to resolve the problem looks to be illegal and I am not going to go there..

And now the car restoration shop that sold me the car wont even take or return my calls. Its only been 6 months now. I had the car painted almost 2 months ago and the thing hasn't left my driveway. Sort of leaves ya with a sick feeling. I don't even open my garage anymore.

I will never make that mistake again.

[jim77]

The shop you bought car from can you take legal action? You could smear the shops name with better business bureau.

[tomcat74cutlass]

It would be his word against mine.
There is NO way I would have paid 2500 for a car with no title but I am not sure if they would see it that way.. Looks like there is nothing I can do now. I am sure whoever buys it from me will find a rotted or junky 74 cutlass and switch out the tags. Hate to say it but I am done with the car.

[Joe Pawlowski]

Tomcat,dont give up yet.Did you contact Broadway title company in Birmingham Alabama??They are a title company that specializes in situations like yours.They claim to be able to get a title for any legit car.They advertise in Hemmings motor news.Before you give up,give them a call.1-800-464-3222 m-f 8am-4pm. www.broadwaytitle.com.Has anyone heard anything about these guys???Joeski

[74hurstolds]

I was going to deal with Broadway, I posted them on this thread but reading into the site more they say that they don't deal with salvage vehicles. It's definitely worth a try though. I did this with a '68 El Camino in the '90s through Georgia.

I have a '75 without a title, only a bill of sale. I was going to contact the original owner and have them file for a lost title, but I think I am going to try Broadway sometime soon.

[texxas8902]

Hate to say it but I am done with the car.

Don't be ridiculous, after all you have spent and the beautiful paint job, the custom Caddy interior, walking away isn't an option. You are just stressed out over this. I found the guys I used to get my 1967 Cutlass convertible title, after reading your thread again I spent 3 minutes and found the paperwork (figures I went right to it after spending over an hour searching my files last time and NOT finding it) The paperwork they sent me to fill out says nothing about salvage vehicles, so I just wouldn't mention it at all. The paperwork does say as long as the car isn't stolen or fraudulently acquired they can get the paperwork for you.
http://www.its-titles.com/
International Title Service in Las Vegas, Nevada. 1-800-543-8626
My car was not in my name and the title was lost.(I paid $2500 for my car too) They worked my problems right out, sent me current registration for my car in, I think it was, Arkansas. I took that paper work to the DMV here in Texas and got a Texas title, tags and registration with absolutely no problems at all. I'm sure they can do it for you. At the very least you can get registration and tags from them so you can legally drive your car, put it up for sale and get your hard earned money out of it. My brother in law has used them numerous times to get registration paperwork for motorcycles. We haven't found one yet they haven't been able to help with. I know their site says 3 to 6 weeks to get the process done but I had my paperwork in about 10 days. Check them out, don't give up yet. Once you can legally take your car on a nice leisurely drive your stress will just flow away. Good luck.:D

[rrtrooper 68]

http://www.its-titles.com/thats the same place my good friend got his chevelle title done at.the only thing i would worry about is if it was a cash for clunker car.i heard horror stories about crooked dealers trying to pawn them off.if it was,that guy will be in allot of trouble.just dont give up on it.that thing is soooo nice. give em a try anyways,it cant hurt .also ,i agre with some of the other posts about smearing this guy and even going to the bbb.they will conduct a investigation on him and no matter how it turns out it will be public information and maybe it wont happen to some other hard working soul.just talking to theim,they will check to see if he has any priors.if he gets enough complaints,they will yank his permits and shut him dowm.no matter how it turns out,i wish you luck.

[mike's88]

Tomcat, after reading this entire thread, where is the restoration shop at, Nevada or Wisconsin. If the shop is in Wis., call a bluff on the owner of the shop. Let him now that since the car crossed state lines, it's now a federal felony case if it's reported to the FBI. That might put some smoke under his ass. Beautiful car, hope all goes well, and don't give up on it.

[74hurstolds]

http://www.its-titles.com/thats the same place my good friend got his chevelle title done at.the only thing i would worry about is if it was a cash for clunker car.i heard horror stories about crooked dealers trying to pawn them off.if it was,that guy will be in allot of trouble.just dont give up on it.that thing is soooo nice. give em a try anyways,it cant hurt .also ,i agre with some of the other posts about smearing this guy and even going to the bbb.they will conduct a investigation on him and no matter how it turns out it will be public information and maybe it wont happen to some other hard working soul.just talking to theim,they will check to see if he has any priors.if he gets enough complaints,they will yank his permits and shut him dowm.no matter how it turns out,i wish you luck.

I think our cars don't qualify for cash for clunkers. Only '96 and newer? Sounds odd I know...

[tomcat74cutlass]

I went to the shop and it is in Butler WI to see him face to face because he would not take or return any of my calls.

He said he was getting the runaround from Broadway title services and that he will fix the problem eventually???:confused:

He tried calling them when I was there but got a busy signal every time??

[tomcat74cutlass]

BBB has No complaints on the shop in the past 3 years of record. At least not yet!

[texxas8902]

I think our cars don't qualify for cash for clunkers. Only '96 and newer? Sounds odd I know...

They didn't but a few older cars snuck through. I got a few parts off a 76 Delta 88 in a junkyard here in South Dallas. It had orange paint slopped on the engine and a sticker saying that liquid glass had been poured in the carb. Car salesmen trying to make the sale pushed a few old ones through that probably didn't get noticed until the deal was done and it was too late.

[tomcat74cutlass]

I called the WI DMV and they are going to send me a complaint form to fill out. The shop is not a registered dealer and they were listed under the BBB as one.

And they said they would open up an investigation in the matter because the guy did not collect any taxes or give me any other paper work other than a bill of sale and he said it was not legal for him to sell me the car without a title unless it was stated on the bill of sale that the car was being sold for parts only. Just the fact that he is posing as a dealer is enough to get him in trouble.

The guy also told me that there would be no way for him to register that car ID because once it is stamped as a junked car it is a dead NON drivable car in any state period! The car should have been destroyed.

He said that if they side with me he will get in big trouble $$ and they may be able to fix the title for me. MAYBE!!?? Or I may just get back my 2500 and the car would go back to Nevada. What a screw job either way. It almost forces a guy to chop the car with different ID tags.

[ebayalias]

It looks like you've pretty much gone through that car. What have you found that might have required it to be junked? At this point, you might want to go through the car, and check all the big parts for VINS and see what matches. Frame, Block, trans. See what came from where. Goodluck with her.

[rrtrooper 68]

I called the WI DMV and they are going to send me a complaint form to fill out. The shop is not a registered dealer and they were listed under the BBB as one.

And they said they would open up an investigation in the matter because the guy did not collect any taxes or give me any other paper work other than a bill of sale and he said it was not legal for him to sell me the car without a title unless it was stated on the bill of sale that the car was being sold for parts only. Just the fact that he is posing as a dealer is enough to get him in trouble.

The guy also told me that there would be no way for him to register that car ID because once it is stamped as a junked car it is a dead NON drivable car in any state period! The car should have been destroyed.

He said that if they side with me he will get in big trouble $$ and they may be able to fix the title for me. MAYBE!!?? Or I may just get back my 2500 and the car would go back to Nevada. What a screw job either way. It almost forces a guy to chop the car with different ID tags.

wow,thats great.remember,you are a victum of this prick.stand your ground.you have done nothing wrong and i tell you this,you got him by the balls.if you tell him the same thing you said here on the forum,i bet he will be a little more helpfull.it's a funny thing that once the money changes hands how guys like this will try to distance them selfs.dont give up.i think in the end,you will pervail.good luck.

[tomcat74cutlass]

It was a maligoon and a GOD thing!

Thanks, Saint Anthony (Maligoon)!:D

[THE MALIGOON]

can i get a amen

[tomcat74cutlass]

Amen !!!!!

[tomcat74cutlass]

It is was a Vermont title? The guy at the DMV said it had been registered in 5 states in the past 6 months. I was told by my seller that they clean up the title one step for every transfer? Now it is a clean WI title in my name that states previously titled in Vermont.

[1977 Cutly]

amen!

[74hurstolds]

It is was a Vermont title? The guy at the DMV said it had been registered in 5 states in the past 6 months. I was told by my seller that they clean up the title one step for every transfer? Now it is a clean WI title in my name that states previously titled in Vermont.

Do you know what service he used to accomplish this?

Congrats on the new car!

[tomcat74cutlass]

He would not tell me what company he used.