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brad442
05-30-2007, 06:23 PM
Hey Guys,

I had read a couple of threads asking how many 403 442's were built. I have a letter from Helen Early, circa '94 where she told me only 350 442's were built with the 403. a little over 70,000 Cutlass 'S' Coupes were built in '77. Of that, just over 11,000 had the W-29 442 option. Of those 11,000 442's, only 350 had the 403 engine option. I wish I knew how many had the 260 5-speed, I am guessing they might have built less. Majority of them had the 350. And, believe it or not, the base engine option was a 231 V6. I wonder if ANY of those were ever built. That would be ashame... And I "think" only 156 1976 442's were built with the 455.

ragz442
05-30-2007, 07:59 PM
Wow, that # is alot lower than I thought it would be. I went and looked at a '77 442 w/a 403 in '01 near Saginaw, MI. Green/white car, a/c but in very rough shape and passed on it. He had a grn/gld '77 in the garage that was in pretty decent condition but wasn't selling at the time. About a year later he got in touch with me and it's the car I have now. Looking back I probably should have bought the 403 car, he only wanted $800 for it.

Ktaaffe77442
05-30-2007, 08:40 PM
when my uncle ordered the 77 442 i have now the piece of scratch paper he had from the dealership had 403 on it, but the salesman talked him out of getting the 403 because it was new and unreliable. My uncle says to this day he regrets listening to him. I wish it had the 403, but the 350 performs well and I can still have fun.

Kevin Taaffe Jr.

kgl271
05-30-2007, 10:27 PM
Wow that is a low number since over 11000 of the 442s were made.

Brad, would you be willing to copy and send me the letter you got. I am a fellow OCA, MN Chapter member.

brad442
05-31-2007, 10:31 AM
Guys,

I have scanned in the letter from Helen Earley. If anyone would like one, just send me a SASE to:

Brad Bishop
9503 Loma Vista Dr.
Dallas, TX 75243

I will be happy to drop a copy in the mail to you!

kgl271
05-31-2007, 10:33 AM
Thanks Brad, I will get a SASE off to you this weekend.

PSU442
05-31-2007, 12:41 PM
you guys just have to rub it in, don't you? ;)

here's another question: how many 403 engines were produced for Pontiac? I wonder if I could get past emissions throwing in a 403 from a Trans Am. They were the same, weren't they?

brad442
05-31-2007, 12:58 PM
Pontiac kept much better records than Oldsmobile. Shouldn't be too big a deal to get that info. Probably online somewhere.

Chris, in the state of Texas, if you register your car as an Antique, you do not have to have the car inspected. If it is 25 years olds or older. Would be no big deal at all to swap out engines...

damaged442
05-31-2007, 04:11 PM
Lots of 403s went to Pontiac. Most late 70s T/As had them. It's rare to actually see one with a Pontiac 400. It's funny how they stand right out with the telltale oil filler tube out front. Several guys I've talked to about them had no idea it was an Olds motor.

kgl271
06-04-2007, 04:51 PM
Brad, I sent you a SASE on Sat for a copy of your letter about 77 442's with the 403.

Thanks

brad442
06-04-2007, 06:04 PM
Sounds good, I will drop the print out in the mail to you soon as it arrives!

texxas8902
06-05-2007, 02:25 AM
Lots of 403s went to Pontiac. Most late 70s T/As had them. It's rare to actually see one with a Pontiac 400. It's funny how they stand right out with the telltale oil filler tube out front. Several guys I've talked to about them had no idea it was an Olds motor.

All the 79 auto T/As had the 403, only the 4 speed car got the Pontiac Motor. I think in California you got a Chevy 305 because of emissions and you could option? down and get a boat anchor Pontiac 301 and make your T/A rare and fairly worthless at the same time.:D Both my 79's have the 403 and Pontiac made more Trans-Ams in 79 than any other year. We used to call them Trash Cans.

442MUCH
06-05-2007, 04:24 AM
Hey Guys,

... And I "think" only 156 1976 442's were built with the 455.

Hey Brad,

I also got the information (verbal) from Helen Earley on the 455's in the 76 442. That number was 143. Hot Rod did a road test in June 76 and they stated that they wanted to test a 455 equipped 442, but were told that they were in "very very short supply".

Ken

brad442
06-06-2007, 07:02 PM
I knew that number was even lower than the ]77 403 cars, that was an "non-educated" guess. Wonder how many '76 455/442's are left other than yours?

mich77442
06-06-2007, 09:28 PM
Brad mine is in the mail

Thanks
Denny